2C-B


2C-B or not 2 C-B?

If that is the question -

Then what is the answer?

 


What is 2C-B and what's the Story behind its Creation?

2C-B or 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine is a synthetic chemical in the phenethylamine class. It is related structurally to mescaline, DOB and distantly, to MDMA. 2C-B was first synthesized back in 1974 by Alexander Shulgin, the American chemist better known as the man who first synthesized MDMA (ecstasy) in '1976. Drug enthusiasts will already know of Shulgin and his work, documented in his classic book PIKHAL: A Chemical Love Story (acronymically known as Phenethylamines I Have Known And Loved) and would have read with interest his discovery of over 200 other phenethylamines, 2C-B being one of his favourites. In the brave tradition of century old science, Alexander and his wife Ann test most of the psychoactive compounds out on themselves and are still continuing their work today, turning on and tuning in despite being in their 70's (he was recently attempting his most ambitious project to date - classifying the psychoactive compounds that naturally occur in cacti - should be interesting).
However it was a year, after synthesizing 2C-B in '74, that Shulgin first discovered its psychoactive properties, which he described as 'beautifully active.' Regarding his many discoveries as 'research tools' into learning about ones self and journey through life, Shulgin has spoken of 2C-B as 'a superb tool for learning and growth'.In fact 2C-B, like ecstasy is sometimes chosen for use in psychedelic psychotherapy because of its short duration and less 'pushy' character. Its popularity increased mainly in the 1980's where it popped up on the rave scene as a legal ecstasy replacement after E was scheduled becoming illegal in most countries. It has recently quietly re-emerged in the UK and holds an interest for those who either go clubbing - colours are intense and wavering coupled with an auditory sensitivity that ensures a 3Dimensional music experience, or for the trippers amongst us, who like to gain insight into themselves, their partners or the world they live in. Or of course, for those that just like a new buzz!

EFFECTS

As analgesic effects are not present with 2C-B, there is increased body awareness of every kind, including skin sensitivity, heightened responsiveness to smells, tastes, and sexual stimulation. A committed team of BP'ers endeavored to find out just what 2C-B really felt like (just so we could tell you!) and after reading up as much information as we could (see refs below), a few of us went on to try it out several times, under different conditions each time (this will be covered in more depth in BP's new series 'Drugs, How Do You Take Yours).
Dosage is crucial (see dose) and each experience has been totally different depending on, like so many psychedelics, mood, environment and what drugs you've taken with it.

Visuals were mild but colours were intense (reds, greens and yellows) and everything had that clean,crisp appearance often noticed when tripping, almost like a perfect spring morning - whatever the weather! A larger dose kept surroundings constantly wavering, patterned, even breathing, almost kaleidoscopic. Animals subtly changed in appearance from cats seeming 'doglike' to appearing as they might of looked in primitive times. Instinctively we knew that the book of life was being passed around and we understood everything and nothing. Music was an important part of all our 2c-b experiences and a slightly larger dose was to roll music out at our feet in a way we'd never experienced before. It became a language of purity and breadth and seemed to display itself as a central thread in the weaving of telepathic communication, an orchestra that linked us all together.
Experiences are of increased consciousness, physical health, introspection, and as we found, a 'heavy body load' if you've been out dancing all night long and your body is tired. We found we tended to stay in the same place for most of the time although there didn't seem to be any problem moving around when a smallish dose was taken when out dancing.

The primary effects of 2C-B last approximately 4-6 hours when taken orally. For many people there is a period of 2-4 hrs afterwards where it can be difficult to go sleep but mood and mind-set will be mainly back to normal. The day-after effects of 2C-B are relatively mild although we noticed quite a heavy tiredness for a couple of days afterwards. As experienced trippers will know, a trip can be a mentally and physically challenging experience and can leave you feeling quite exhausted afterwards. The 2C-B experience is one of the shortest of any major psychedelic drug. Wherever you might be, hang on. In an hour or so you will be approaching familiar territory again.

 

Dose

2C-B is normally taken orally, snorted or even smoked (we'd be interested to hear from anyone who has done it this way) but anecdotal evidence from 2C-B users suggest that snorting it is like having 'red-hot needles jammed up your nose' and folks are advised AGAINST taking it this way- remember, unlike many, if not most, psychedelic drugs it has no anesthetic or pain relieving properties. (NB, we were later to experiment with this after a mate said it wasn't that bad - and it while it was very painful for about 10 minutes, we reckon it was just about bearable...As is usual with snorting it comes out a bit stronger and quicker than swallowing.)

2c-b is extremely dose sensitive, the standard dose being between 15-40mg depending on body mass and sensitivity and takes about 45 - 75mins to come on being considerably slower on a full stomach. Pills have commonly contained 5 mg, capsules around 15-25mg though of course this tends to vary. There is a steep dose response curve. Over the 12 to 24 milligram range, every 2 milligrams can make a profound increase or change of response. Initially, one should go lightly, and increase the dosage in subsequent trials by small increments; otherwise you may embark on something you're not quite ready for. We found the difference between taking one capsule, to taking 1 ½ or taking 2, were huge. One capsule was a rather mild experience while 2 propelled us into kaleidoscopic city! Snorted doses are about 1/3 that of an oral dose and are legendary in their painfulness - or rather, it hurts like fuck for 10 minutes.

 

2 C-B's place in the drug Scene (price & law)

As a relative to ecstasy, 2C-B is primarily a club scene drug and as such, clubbers use it to complement the ecstasy buzz although it can be taken on its own. Also called Nexus, Bee, or C'Bs, as far as BP can ascertain it is relatively hard to come by in the UK, although it is gathering converts on the gay & dance scene as an accompaniment to ecstasy. Production sources of 2-CB have been reported as far away as India and Thailand, with routes passing through Turkey and the Balkans on its way to Europe despite being illegal in many countries and Schedule I in the U.K., making it illegal to sell, buy, or possess without a license. Schedule 1 covers the most restricted drugs(eg, LSD and cannabis), can only be supplied or possessed for research or other special purposes by people licensed by the Home Office; these drugs are not available for normal medical uses and cannot be prescribed by doctors who do not have a licence.)

 

Mixing it

In depth research and careful experimenting led us to try 2c-b with a few different drugs, just to do the experimenting for you in a safe environment! Alcohol taken before 2c-b while slowing down the effect, does give a very mellow and relaxed feeling and we stayed awake all night listening to golden oldies and telling funny stories, literally laughing until the tears came! There have been many reports of 2c-b and alcohol being quite a mellow
combo but as with any drug and alcohol - it is essential to get as much info as you can beforehand, never drink too much and take it as easily and slowly. But it may not be for everyone. Taking alcohol with most drugs is usually a bad idea. As mentioned, 2c-b is often taken with ecstasy and experiments from Shulgin and several other enthusiastic advocates in the psychotherapy world have ascertained that the correct time to take 2c-b is not with E, nor just after an E, but towards the end of an E, at or just before, the final baseline recovery of the MDMA as if 'the mental and emotional discoveries can be mobilized, and something done about them'.
Most of us were on opiate scripts of one kind or another, neither seemed to interfere noticeably. We'd suggest taking your opiate dose (if needed) plenty of time before your 2c-b but ensuring you won't leave yourself sick whilst tripping.

Mixing drugs is only for the experienced drug user - NOT for the novice. It is not to be taken lightly. BP always recommends people not to mix their drugs but we know this is not anything like the reality of drug taking. Thus we try to give what information we can, carefully. Either way, with trips, you don't need to take another drug with them and 2C-B is very much like a trip. Other drugs can interfere with the sensations and clarity of feelings.

The Negatives…

Flatulence, stomach cramps and diarrhoea have been reported and allergic-type reactions can cause increased mucous production leading to heavy coughing. Extreme care should be taken not to exceed the stated dose. This is not a drug you can just swallow a handful of.
www.erowid.org, a particularly well informed drug users web site state "Possible negative effects include anxiety and unwanted or frightening feelings, thoughts and visions thoughts and visions. 2C-B, though significantly lesser common than with LSD, can precipitate strong, temporary changes in an individual's experience of life and reality. It can be a powerful psychoactive experience, especially at higher doses, which is significantly affected by experiences, set and setting. Recent experiences, especially strong ones, can have a substantial effect on a trip. Physically or psychologically unsettling events in the days before a trip can blossom into more serious distress and trauma while tripping. It is important to be prepared for the possibility of encountering difficult or frightening mental states. Go to www.erowid.org for their Psychedelic Crisis FAQ which addresses some of the issues involved in dealing with a difficult trip. Be sensible, get some knowledge and take it easy. You'll have a much better time.

Contraindications

o Do not take 2C-B if you are currently taking an MAOI. MAOIs are most commonly found in the prescription anti-depressants (generic names such as: phenelzine tranylcypromine isocarboxazid l-deprenyl moclobemide Ayahuasca also contains MAOIs (harmine and harmaline) 2C-B and MAOIs are a potentially dangerous combination. Check with your doctor if you are not sure whether your prescription medication is an MAOI
o Do not operate heavy machinery. Do Not Drive.
o If you have a seizure or convulsive disorder or heart problems, you may be at higher risk for health problems when taking 2C-B. Diabetics should monitor their blood sugar closely as there have been some reports of problems.
o Individuals currently in the midst of emotional or psychological upheaval in their everyday lives should be careful about choosing to use psychedelics such as 2C-B as they can trigger even more difficulty.
o Individuals with a family history of schizophrenia or early onset mental illness should be extremely careful because psychedelics have been known to trigger latent psychological and mental problems.

 

More Info:
Essential reading would have to be Alexander & Ann Shulgin's classic book, PiHKAL (or 'Phenethylamines I Have Known And Loved') which documents over 250 phenethylamines, including 2C-B, MDMA, mescaline, 2C-T-7, 2C-T-2, and many others. BP's also recommends an excellent website www.erowid.org (see our web review this issue) as an source of information on all aspects of 2-CB and other psychedics .